GLaw
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Authored by GLaw on Sept 9, 2013 12:34:22 GMT
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stegu
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Authored by stegu on Sept 9, 2013 14:03:36 GMT
Perhaps we should rather call the remnants of Nokia "Nukia", either for what they are going to try doing to Newkia, or how they are likely to end up for their apparent plan of suing their competition instead of actually competing.
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OpensourceFTW
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Authored by OpensourceFTW on Sept 9, 2013 17:32:16 GMT
More like Sukia.
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Authored by macrorodent on Sept 11, 2013 5:37:37 GMT
Perhaps we should rather call the remnants of Nokia "Nukia", either for what they are going to try doing to Newkia, or how they are likely to end up for their apparent plan of suing their competition instead of actually competing. It's inaccurate to talk about a "remnant". Nokia sold about half of its business to Microsoft, not the whole company or even a majority. Of course, the phone business was the most publicly visible part, so most people seem to think all of Nokia was swallowed. But in the spirit of Groklaw, let's try to stick to facts. Nokia still will have quite real production going on, and can't a pure patent troll.
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Authored by ukjayb on Sept 11, 2013 11:05:45 GMT
Perhaps we should rather call the remnants of Nokia "Nukia", either for what they are going to try doing to Newkia, or how they are likely to end up for their apparent plan of suing their competition instead of actually competing. It's inaccurate to talk about a "remnant". Nokia sold about half of its business to Microsoft, not the whole company or even a majority. Of course, the phone business was the most publicly visible part, so most people seem to think all of Nokia was swallowed. But in the spirit of Groklaw, let's try to stick to facts. Nokia still will have quite real production going on, and can't a pure patent troll. While i mostly agree with you on this, they do have the capability of enforcing patents against other phone makers without the fear of receiving reciprocal attacks. That's the key part in being a troll, not that you aren't producing ANYTHING, but that you aren't producing anything relevant. If you aren't making phones, but you are using phone patents to sue phone companies, imo that's basically being a patent troll because you know there will be absolutely no repercussions against your actions. Now, at this point we have to wait and see which game microso- i mean nokia, wants to play here. will they remain on the sidelines and use their ip for enforcing against parties that are actually violating, or will they jump on the "let's sue the brains out of every android manufacturer" bandwagon.
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GLaw
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Authored by GLaw on Sept 11, 2013 12:43:29 GMT
Now, at this point we have to wait and see which game microso- i mean nokia, wants to play here. will they remain on the sidelines and use their ip for enforcing against parties that are actually violating, or will they jump on the "let's sue the brains out of every android manufacturer" bandwagon. The Washington Post - Is Nokia about to become a patent troll?
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stegu
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Authored by stegu on Sept 11, 2013 14:20:48 GMT
It's inaccurate to talk about a "remnant". Nokia sold about half of its business to Microsoft, not the whole company or even a majority. Of course, the phone business was the most publicly visible part, so most people seem to think all of Nokia was swallowed. But in the spirit of Groklaw, let's try to stick to facts. Nokia still will have quite real production going on, and can't a pure patent troll. Sorry, I meant to say "remnants of Nokia's phone business", of which only the patent licensing part is left. That part is definitely troll material, and assuming that Microsoft is probably still influencing them heavily, I fear we will see some ugly things happening soon. But time will tell. In the meantime, it will be interesting to see if Microsoft can pull themselves together and do hardware and software for phones without making a complete mess of it and bleeding money, like they did all the other times they tried making their own hardware.
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