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Authored by eamacnaghten on Sept 10, 2013 14:39:00 GMT
I have included this link as what I see as a valid use of Patents. First some history: Dyson is an inventor, who invented the cyclone vacuum cleaner. He patented it, and tried to sell the idea to Hoover, who turned him down.Hoover then put a cyclone vacuum cleaner on the market.A court battle ensued, which almost bankrupted Dyson, but he was victorious in the end.Various other companies tried to rip off his idea.
Dyson probably did invent the idea represented here, and it is a valid invention. It is not Maths as in SW patents, but a real idea. I am a little surprised that Samsung ripped it off, it may not have done, I do not know the details, but I think it is worth an entry here. Dyson sues Samsung over new vacuum's steering mechanism
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Authored by wayneborean on Sept 10, 2013 17:16:58 GMT
There've been "cyclonic" vacuum cleaners available since the end of the Second World War, and possibly earlier than that. Dyson's idea is no more an invention than if I got a patent on a water glass. Wayne madhatter.ca
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celtichackr
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Authored by celtichackr on Sept 10, 2013 20:15:30 GMT
I suspect if you take any canister vacuum and replace the case with a clear case and make the case the bag you'd find they are all cyclonic. Although placement of the air inlet and outlet would affect that. I know that my workshop vacs (shopvac wet-dry vacuum) are cyclonic. It's a brainless invention.
As for the inventive turning mechanism. take apart a lazy susan to see where he stole the idea. It's just a contained ball bearing. Novel only in the fact it's the biggest contained/trapped ball bearing I've ever seen, but I wouldn't say none others that size or larger don't exist.
Troubling it took him years to figure it out. I was doing such things at 11, but then I am a certified genius who was designing spacecraft and rocket engines at 9. Good thing, I'm an underachiever, or I'd be some famous physic/engineering geek suing poo-loads of people for stealing my precious IP.\
Still, no other vacuum companies seem to have ever figured it out. Which is more troubling, the concept that it took Dyson years to figure it out, or that for nigh on a century no other vacuum engineer ever has?
Lastly, Samsung's design looks creepily identical to Dyson's. I find their statements suspect. It may not have been a very hard thing to figure out, but it looks very much like a case of Monkey-see-Monkey-do.
Which, all leads to the sad state of affairs of all the patent systems in the world. It's too easy to get patents for novel things that should be FREAKING obvious to any one without major brain damage.
But, then, I've never been a good reference for what is obvious to non-brain-damaged people. I'm constantly reminded of that, by the actions of my normal intelligence wife and creepily brilliant child.
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