celtichackr
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Authored by celtichackr on Aug 30, 2013 3:33:25 GMT
Perhaps it is just me affected, but it seems as if all comments have been shut off on Groklaw. I went to post a reply to a comment, forgetting I was not logged in, and it returned me to the main page. So I logged in and tried again. Same result. So I assumed PJ had banned me. But being the geek I am, I had to test whether it was an IP block or an IP + user block or both or neither. Just because I like to take things apart and see how they work, not to do an end run around PJ. I wouldn't have posted, if I was certain PJ was blocking me. PJ, got a little peeved at me for a thread I was partaking in. It was an interesting subject to me, even though started by some creep who's been out of PJ, I gather for some time. It was a purely philosophical matter to me. But I digress. So I tried from an entirely different network . One I've never connected from, or at least I'm fairly sure I have not. Anyway, same response, So, I think the comments are shut down. But someone else might want to try and confirm. PJ hasn't said I've been blocked, and I can still log in, and I'd expect I wouldn't be able to, were I blocked. Which is what led me down my investigative rabbit-hole. So I can't confirm or deny I've been blocked from posting, and or whether the comments aren't working (either by design or other reasons).
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Authored by kevb on Aug 30, 2013 7:28:52 GMT
I just now logged into Groklaw and tried to post and was also directed back to the home page. I thought that maybe the particular parent post I was replying to had reached some sort of cap so I went to an article that had only 78 responses and got the same deal. Its sad, but it makes sense that since PJ intention was to closed it down, it has indeed been closed down. I dread saying that its time for us all to move on but we must; it is after all what PJ wants. I shall mourn for just a little longer then try as best I can, along with you guys, to make this site the voice of sanity and reason in the IP madness.
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Authored by Cm on Aug 30, 2013 8:04:03 GMT
I guess that they've been totally blocked: 2 or 3 days ago I noticed the comment count was 955, but now it is 962 - a substantial decrease in the comments being added daily.
I suspect the main code has been changed to redirect any reply attempt to the article list - comment.php is served up as a redirect to the index.php file - for everyone (as there is effectively no one there to monitor and moderate comments).
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celtichackr
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Authored by celtichackr on Aug 30, 2013 13:23:59 GMT
I dread saying that its time for us all to move on but we must; it is after all what PJ wants. I have not heard anywhere that PJ wants us to move on. In fact she has expressed her deep concern that there is a grokthelaw spin-off. She worries for our legal welfare, that we may do something to get hurt, because we aren't trained in the law and may not have some legal eagle such as herself to protect us. Also, she's worried about our privacy. A concern that has strong foundation based on the TOU on this site. I'm not happy about this sites TOU, and not even sure why I agreed to them (water under the bridge).
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celtichackr
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Authored by celtichackr on Aug 30, 2013 14:03:39 GMT
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Authored by nsomos on Aug 31, 2013 4:52:57 GMT
I read that same post but did not come to the conclusion that bprice is/was admin at Groklaw. But I suppose it does not really matter much one way or the other.
His bio shows ... ------------ Groklegians are welcome to email me as Bill1941Price on gmail.com. (Where the " on " obviously represents '@'.)
Anything I write for Groklaw may be used by Groklaw for any purpose. ------------ If it matters enough for anyone to verify one way or the other, they can email him.
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Authored by Feldegast on Sept 1, 2013 4:21:16 GMT
As a moderator on Groklaw i knew that comments for each article were automatically stopped 7 days after the article went live. It has been that way for a LONG time
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Authored by stegu on Sept 2, 2013 22:42:33 GMT
So, nobody even stopped by to turn off the lights, it was just a pre-programmed timer. Sad, really, but how do you close a site like Groklaw? Going cold turkey might have been the only way.
Groklaw was a habit that I find surprisingly hard to break, and I'm in some kind of withdrawal right now, feeling deprived of both an important source of information and a peripheral but cherished part of my social network. I think it will be hard to continue doing anything more than a reincarnation of the "News Picks" section of Groklaw, but that was in itself a big reason why I kept coming back.
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celtichackr
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Authored by celtichackr on Sept 6, 2013 20:32:57 GMT
As Stegu says, The News Picks was a big part of my following Groklaw. But overriding all that was the quest for truth and sanity in the IP Law, and a belief in PJ's commitment and goals. alas the commuity was a big part of it all. However, I can't do cold turkey. I see that someone is still updating the News Picks on Groklaw, and PJ has "apparently" updated the last article with Mr. Schneier's 5 tips.
Now we are all left with lesser alternatives to the reporting of these important cases, that were a big part of the Groklaw following and New Picks.
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Authored by foulis on Sept 7, 2013 1:45:31 GMT
To me the best part of GK was PJ explaining a patent and stating that it just had to have prior art. Then I would sit back and watch/wait as the "geeks" would haul books/magazines off their shelves. Never failed that they had prior art. Always wished the lawyers of the patent case would leave a comment of thanks (anon of course). That's my withdrawal. But I'm doing Comes so still contributing in my own way.
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Authored by sputnikkers on Sept 7, 2013 17:03:46 GMT
Just stopped by Groklaw (still on my most visited start page) and saw that there was a comment by pj on the <a href="http://blogs.seattletimes.com/microsoftpri0/2013/09/05/presiding-juror-in-microsoft-motorola-trial-is-renowned-geneticist/">Presiding juror in Microsoft-Motorola trial a renowned geneticist | Microsoft Pri0 | Seattle Times</a> story on her home page. She questioned the use of a juror whose position had been sponsored by MS/Gates. (apologies if my html doesn't work - haven't posted here before!)
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Authored by Bill Price on Sept 11, 2013 11:07:37 GMT
Responding to a post by celtichackr Aug 30, 2013 at 8:03am No one emailed me to ask, but here's the answer: I'd been around Groklaw for long enough to have learned that commenting was automatically disabled 2 weeks (336 hours) after some specific time in the history of the article. It may have been the timestamp when the article was started, when it was first posted, when it was last posted ( e.g., updated), or some other time: I have no way to know. I do recall that PJ made that happen years ago, as part of dealing with astroturfers and spammers. I posted My Last Groklaw Comment at about T+330 hours, knowing that (a) 'twas bedtime for me and (b) the 336 hours would likely be up by the time I could get back to the keyboard. It was. As to being an admin: no. PJ made it clear who the admins were: PJ, Mark, mathfox (originally) and whoever replaced mathfox as webmaster from time to time: Steve Martin seemed to be the last. —Bill
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Authored by Bill Price on Sept 11, 2013 11:11:36 GMT
Feldegast, I thought Groklaw moderators were not supposed to identify themselves as such. --Bill
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Authored by Feldegast on Sept 12, 2013 7:12:26 GMT
It is moot now because there is no longer something to moderate
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Authored by Anonymous on Sept 13, 2013 1:11:34 GMT
I dread saying that its time for us all to move on but we must; it is after all what PJ wants. I have not heard anywhere that PJ wants us to move on. In fact she has expressed her deep concern that there is a grokthelaw spin-off. She worries for our legal welfare, that we may do something to get hurt, because we aren't trained in the law and may not have some legal eagle such as herself to protect us. Also, she's worried about our privacy. A concern that has strong foundation based on the TOU on this site. I'm not happy about this sites TOU, and not even sure why I agreed to them (water under the bridge). Perhaps if PJ is sooooooo concerned, perhaps she should reopen Groklaw and negate the risk.
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