GLaw
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Authored by GLaw on Sept 26, 2013 13:48:50 GMT
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squib
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Authored by squib on Sept 26, 2013 18:25:37 GMT
Didn't fully understand all of that. Can a techie please elucidate. I thought Ctrl-Alt-Del was for use only as a last resort when running a 'proper' OS and all else failed. So one had to use both hands to convince the OS you that you really, really, and serious wanted to escape and reboot. With Windows however, this situation became a common occurrence! So, I do not see how IBM was to blame. Is Billy really trying to say: “When our software goes wrong it is simpler to reboot than to try and fix it because you don't have the source code. But fear not, because when we fix it we will sell you a new OS. Also (you lucky punters) the new OS will also allow you to Ctrl-Alt-Del... until we get around to fixing any new problems that OS has. If in a few decades time you come to suss out our little game, we can then assure you that it was all a mistake and IBM made us do it!” Hells bells, IBM released their the PC specs under common domain. The did not force anyone. M$ repaid that gesture by holding back IBM's OS/2 so that their own OS hit the market first.
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Authored by opensourceftw on Sept 26, 2013 18:28:48 GMT
No, there is a protection feature you can enable for logging in that requires you press control-alt-delete, then type in your login info. Since this command is hardwired into the system, it will theoretically bypass any fake login prompts that are trying to fool you into typing your info in.
You will see this on a lot of terminals used by schools and libraries.
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squib
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Authored by squib on Sept 27, 2013 17:15:06 GMT
? This protection 'feature' as you call (it is not a bug, it is a feature) was again was down to M$ poor security. I think you're referring a long the lines to this and Revmike puts this better than I: “Once sufficiently advanced versions of Windows came along, this special nature of Ctrl-Alt-Del was used as a security feature. Imagine a simple unprivileged program that would put up a screen that looked like the login screen. It could sit there and collect passwords all day. However, if the user pressed Ctrl-Alt-Del first, the windows kernel could pull that program out of the foreground and put a real login window up. The fake login screen couldn't change that behavior. It would take a far more sophisticated program to steal the passwords. That program would be fairly easy to detect because it would need to alter some core files that shouldn't normally get altered, and most users shouldn't even have the rights to alter those files in the first place.” www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1n68nz/bill_gates_admits_controlaltdelete_was_a_mistake/So M$ could not do without it. Back to what I was asking... and this blog has answered my questions thank you. (admittedly, today if I'm playing silly buggers with my system, I sometimes have to go through the “Raising-Elephants-Is-So-Utterly-Boring" routine but at least I don't lose any of my data, unlike in the days of Widows)
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Authored by wayneborean on Sept 28, 2013 14:33:02 GMT
Alternate Headline: Ctrl-Alt-Delete admits Bill Gates was a mistake. Wayne madhatter.ca
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